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Ares · 12-05-2009, 08:35 AM

I have a trivial php webpage on my f2s-hosted website, called phptest1.php and with content :

<html>
<body>
pre-php text
<?php echo "message from php" ; ?>
post-php text
</body>
</html>

I execute it from a link from the index.html page on the same site and get a "website cannot display the page" error. A parallel and equivalent htmltest1.html page runs OK.

On my PC I use the WAMP development package & both .php & .html pages run OK on localhost.

I have loaded the WAMP php.ini file to the website but made no changes and still failed to run the .php page.

Do I need to execute/install/initialise/set up php on the website? Or what?

Thanks.

brian_ex-f2s · 12-05-2009, 08:26 PM

Can you post a link to the file/index.html where it links through to the php file?

also can you upload a phpinfo and view it?

<?
phpinfo();
?>

Brian

Ares · 13-05-2009, 05:28 PM

Thanks for the response. I'm not entirely sure what you are asking/suggesting. I have stripped the problem down to a minimum. The website is www.rogerkeeling.f2s.com. There are 3 files involved, all held in folder /public_html/. They are:

index.html

<html>
<body>
 
<a href="htmltest1.html">htmltest1.html</a> 
 
<a href="phptest1.php">phptest1.php</a>
</body>
</html>

htmltest1.html

<html>
 
web page in html
</html>

phptest1.php

<html>
<body>
pre-php text
 
<?php echo "message from php" ; ?>
 
<?php
phpinfo();
?>
 
post-php text
</body>
</html>

I have downloaded a WAMP development package from www.wampserver.com. The 3 files run as expected on my PC through localhost (ie. pages link OK from index and show the expected messages and phpinfo) suggesting that the above scripts are OK. I transfer the files to the website by ftp. Then, the index displays OK as does the linked htmltest1.html page, suggesting the site is broadly wholesome, but the phptest1.php link gives "the website cannot dipslay the page" error. It looks as though there should be some link or cross reference or initialisation process to fire up php pages. Any advice, ideas, examples, documenation appreciated.

**Antonio_f2s** · 13-05-2009, 05:46 PM

Brian was asking you if you are able to upload a phpinfo to your webspace and view it...

If you would like me to have a look please PM me the password for your FTP folder...

Ares · 13-05-2009, 06:19 PM

Replied to Antonio with thanks.

brian_ex-f2s · 13-05-2009, 07:45 PM

Without being able to look at your webspace, the link for the file htmltest1.html is

http://www.rogerkeeling.f2s.com/htmltest1.html

However, the php file links to:

http://www.rogerkeeling.f2s.com/publ...l/phptest1.php

normally your link does not need to include the public_html part so should be:

http://www.rogerkeeling.f2s.com/phptest1.php

There is more to it though as browsing to the above does not work either so it may be a permissions problem. From my previous post, can you upload a file called info.php with the below code in it:

<?
phpinfo();
?>

put this into public_html then browse to:

http://www.rogerkeeling.f2s.com/info.php

Justin · 13-05-2009, 11:56 PM

If I browse that page I get

Internal Server Error
Directory "/websites/LinuxPackage04/ro/ge/rk/rogerkeeling.f2s.com/public_html" is writeable by others suPHP 0.6.3

Looks like Tiscali are using suPHP on their servers, which is not something I've really seen on an ISP's servers before.

The beauty of the old F2S Email and Web platforms pre pipex takeover was they were so simple and did their job well. They were changed and despite numerous rehashes at trying to fixing them they've never hit the heights since.

brian_ex-f2s · 14-05-2009, 07:04 AM

It should work fine then as that appears to be a permissions problem. I think the permissions for the file should be set to 644 or rw r r.

The old servers were not very reliable and so were changed to the 123-reg/webfusion servers after the pipex take over, reliability of this platform is certainly far better.

**Antonio_f2s** · 14-05-2009, 10:35 AM

Def a permissions issue.... I changed the permissions for the folder and edited your index file (hope you didnt mind

) to correct the link and it is working OK now...

Justin · 14-05-2009, 10:39 AM

People keep telling me that the numerous migrations improved things. Indeed there were reliability problems with the old platforms. However these were only post Pipex takeover.

The email system is a good case in point. Stuart came on here saying there was hardware and memory problems with the servers, some years ago now, however the somewhat ironic thing is that after these problems had been 'fixed' with a number of new platforms, the service performed far worse then the old, so called broken platform was.

I'm sure if you look around you can see various issues with hugely delayed mail (Up to a month) as soon as postfix came on stream - these were completely unheard of with the old platform, despite it's so called flaws, it was a hell of a lot better at handling and processing email.

Not really suprising though, after the amount of staff that lost their jobs. who built this once fine ISP up.

Ares · 14-05-2009, 02:00 PM

Thanks to all respondents. Website is now working. Your help has come faster than I could react to it. These "not working at all" problems reach the hair-tearing level on the beaufort frustration scale so I am particularly grateful. Thanks, not just for advising the solution of setting permissions but implementing it too.

brian_ex-f2s · 14-05-2009, 08:56 PM

[QUOTE=Justin;95730]People keep telling me that the numerous migrations improved things. Indeed there were reliability problems with the old platforms. However these were only post Pipex takeover.

I was mearly on about the web platform. The old servers used to hang quite alot mainly due to bad scripts killing the servers.

The email platform was pretty good with just the odd incident of delays until it then got changed after the pipex take over and we all know what headaches that caused.

Justin · 20-05-2009, 01:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brian_ex-f2s

I was mearly on about the web platform. The old servers used to hang quite alot mainly due to bad scripts killing the servers.

The email platform was pretty good with just the odd incident of delays until it then got changed after the pipex take over and we all know what headaches that caused.

Admittley there were a few issues with scripts hanging the old servers, although I very rarely saw any problems because of this as they normally were fixed with a reason.txt file in FTP for the suspended owners website and were suspended quite quickly.

However Pipex were letting people run amock on these servers about 6 months after tha takeover, with absloutely no apparant monitoring, and allowing people to use ridicolous amounts of bandwidth, take a look at the thread below. No wonder the servers were hanging when abusers were not being dealt with. If someone can use 1TB of data in a day something is plainly wrong.

http://www.tiscaliuser.net/forums/we...-problems.html

As for the email platform I had 5-6 members of the family using it because it was the fastest email platform I'd ever used. Now I don't use it myself, as it's full of spam, prone to delays on both incoming and outgoing, sometimes plain does not work, and webmail is in dire need of updating and is now not exactly useful for on the move. The combined fact that the benefits of IMAP are all but gone when the thing doesn't work right means there is no way I can trust it, so I finally bit the bullet and got my own domain.

12-05-2009, 08:35 AM	#1
Ares Tiscali User Member Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 6 Thanks: 3 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	PHP not executing I have a trivial php webpage on my f2s-hosted website, called phptest1.php and with content : <html> <body> pre-php text <?php echo "message from php" ; ?> post-php text </body> </html> I execute it from a link from the index.html page on the same site and get a "website cannot display the page" error. A parallel and equivalent htmltest1.html page runs OK. On my PC I use the WAMP development package & both .php & .html pages run OK on localhost. I have loaded the WAMP php.ini file to the website but made no changes and still failed to run the .php page. Do I need to execute/install/initialise/set up php on the website? Or what? Thanks.

12-05-2009, 08:26 PM	#2
brian_ex-f2s Former Freedom2Surf Staff Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 10 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Re: PHP not executing Can you post a link to the file/index.html where it links through to the php file? also can you upload a phpinfo and view it? <? phpinfo(); ?> Brian

13-05-2009, 05:28 PM	#3
Ares Tiscali User Member Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 6 Thanks: 3 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: PHP not executing Thanks for the response. I'm not entirely sure what you are asking/suggesting. I have stripped the problem down to a minimum. The website is www.rogerkeeling.f2s.com. There are 3 files involved, all held in folder /public_html/. They are: index.html <html> <body> <br> <a href="htmltest1.html">htmltest1.html</a><br> <br> <a href="phptest1.php">phptest1.php</a> </body> </html> htmltest1.html <html> <br> web page in html </html> phptest1.php <html> <body> pre-php text <br> <?php echo "message from php" ; ?> <br> <?php phpinfo(); ?> <br> post-php text </body> </html> I have downloaded a WAMP development package from www.wampserver.com. The 3 files run as expected on my PC through localhost (ie. pages link OK from index and show the expected messages and phpinfo) suggesting that the above scripts are OK. I transfer the files to the website by ftp. Then, the index displays OK as does the linked htmltest1.html page, suggesting the site is broadly wholesome, but the phptest1.php link gives "the website cannot dipslay the page" error. It looks as though there should be some link or cross reference or initialisation process to fire up php pages. Any advice, ideas, examples, documenation appreciated. Last edited by Ares; 13-05-2009 at 05:44 PM.

13-05-2009, 05:46 PM	#4
Antonio_f2s freedom2surf Staff Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 430 Thanks: 3 Thanked 64 Times in 52 Posts	Re: PHP not executing Brian was asking you if you are able to upload a phpinfo to your webspace and view it... If you would like me to have a look please PM me the password for your FTP folder... __________________ Antonio http://www.freedom2surf.net

13-05-2009, 06:19 PM	#5
Ares Tiscali User Member Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 6 Thanks: 3 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: PHP not executing Replied to Antonio with thanks.

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13-05-2009, 07:45 PM	#6
brian_ex-f2s Former Freedom2Surf Staff Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 10 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Re: PHP not executing Without being able to look at your webspace, the link for the file htmltest1.html is http://www.rogerkeeling.f2s.com/htmltest1.html However, the php file links to: http://www.rogerkeeling.f2s.com/publ...l/phptest1.php normally your link does not need to include the public_html part so should be: http://www.rogerkeeling.f2s.com/phptest1.php There is more to it though as browsing to the above does not work either so it may be a permissions problem. From my previous post, can you upload a file called info.php with the below code in it: <? phpinfo(); ?> put this into public_html then browse to: http://www.rogerkeeling.f2s.com/info.php

13-05-2009, 11:56 PM	#7
Justin Site Founder Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 4,339 Thanks: 4 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Re: PHP not executing If I browse that page I get Internal Server Error Directory "/websites/LinuxPackage04/ro/ge/rk/rogerkeeling.f2s.com/public_html" is writeable by others suPHP 0.6.3 Looks like Tiscali are using suPHP on their servers, which is not something I've really seen on an ISP's servers before. The beauty of the old F2S Email and Web platforms pre pipex takeover was they were so simple and did their job well. They were changed and despite numerous rehashes at trying to fixing them they've never hit the heights since. __________________ Justin Tiscali User

14-05-2009, 07:04 AM	#8
brian_ex-f2s Former Freedom2Surf Staff Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 10 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Re: PHP not executing It should work fine then as that appears to be a permissions problem. I think the permissions for the file should be set to 644 or rw r r. The old servers were not very reliable and so were changed to the 123-reg/webfusion servers after the pipex take over, reliability of this platform is certainly far better.

14-05-2009, 10:35 AM	#9
Antonio_f2s freedom2surf Staff Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 430 Thanks: 3 Thanked 64 Times in 52 Posts	Re: PHP not executing Def a permissions issue.... I changed the permissions for the folder and edited your index file (hope you didnt mind ) to correct the link and it is working OK now... __________________ Antonio http://www.freedom2surf.net

14-05-2009, 10:39 AM	#10
Justin Site Founder Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 4,339 Thanks: 4 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Re: PHP not executing People keep telling me that the numerous migrations improved things. Indeed there were reliability problems with the old platforms. However these were only post Pipex takeover. The email system is a good case in point. Stuart came on here saying there was hardware and memory problems with the servers, some years ago now, however the somewhat ironic thing is that after these problems had been 'fixed' with a number of new platforms, the service performed far worse then the old, so called broken platform was. I'm sure if you look around you can see various issues with hugely delayed mail (Up to a month) as soon as postfix came on stream - these were completely unheard of with the old platform, despite it's so called flaws, it was a hell of a lot better at handling and processing email. Not really suprising though, after the amount of staff that lost their jobs. who built this once fine ISP up. __________________ Justin Tiscali User

14-05-2009, 02:00 PM	#11
Ares Tiscali User Member Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 6 Thanks: 3 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: PHP not executing Thanks to all respondents. Website is now working. Your help has come faster than I could react to it. These "not working at all" problems reach the hair-tearing level on the beaufort frustration scale so I am particularly grateful. Thanks, not just for advising the solution of setting permissions but implementing it too.

14-05-2009, 08:56 PM	#12
brian_ex-f2s Former Freedom2Surf Staff Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 10 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Re: PHP not executing [QUOTE=Justin;95730]People keep telling me that the numerous migrations improved things. Indeed there were reliability problems with the old platforms. However these were only post Pipex takeover. I was mearly on about the web platform. The old servers used to hang quite alot mainly due to bad scripts killing the servers. The email platform was pretty good with just the odd incident of delays until it then got changed after the pipex take over and we all know what headaches that caused.

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