Poor grasp of English grammar on F2S site

[hullydude]

I don't think it paints a very good picture if the F2S website, the 'front door' to the world is full of basic English grammar errors!

For example http://www.freedom2surf.net/adsl/homeuser.php states:


The Freedom2phone VoIP Service
Internet Telephony at it's best.

I mean... doesn't anyone older than 19, (i.e. who doesn't write in txtspk), check the site before it's published to the world?

I'm sure it doesn't bother a lot of the younger generation, because, let's face it, we're dumbing down all the time so who cares, right?

However, it would cause me to consider whether or not to spend my money with them. If they can't even write basic English, how the heck are they going to manage the network?

huLLy

[Xenith]

Erm, I feel really naive in saying this, ( im 18 myself so I guess I do fall into your 'txtspk' category... but please dont brand me in such a way its not nice ), but what exactly is wrong with that?

The Freedom2phone VoIP Service, appears fine to me, they are tagging their 'f2s' kind of slogan onto it with f2p so I can't see anything wrong with that.

Internet Telephony at it's best, also appears fine to me even word ticks it

[hullydude]

Originally Posted by Xenith

Internet Telephony at it's best, also appears fine to me even word ticks it

Zenith, this is a basic English faux pas. Look again

[pauln1961]

This may help..

Its or It's?


Its is the possessive pronoun; it modifies a noun.

It's is a contraction of it is or <B>it has.

</B>Incorrect: The mother cat carried it's kitten in it's mouth.
(Possessive pronoun, no apostrophe)
Correct: The mother cat carried its kitten in its mouth.
Correct: I think it's going to rain today.
(Contraction of it is)
Correct: It's been a very long time.
(Contraction of it has) Made me think there....

[NineToTheSky]

Hullydude: I suspect I'm from the same generation (i.e. decrepit ). I agree with you: I'm infuriated with what I regard as simple mistakes. If you're going to write - do it right!

And for Xenith (and, I suspect) many others: what's the difference between its and it's? (Clue: one has a letter missing - guess what the missing letter is, and when you'd use each one )

[NineToTheSky]

Beaten to the post again

[strider]

When you have representatives of the company ending statements with "Now who's for tennis?" what do you expect?

They clear don't take anything seriously and as a result F2S cannot be taken seriously. It's unfortunate that those representing F2S on this site act, at times, as if they are twelve years old and still at school, rather than acting in a professional and courteous manner.

[wfnuk]

FROM ANOTHER THREAD:

Originally Posted by minority

What we the sarcasm how is it so hard to believe that I am in full time education like to see my loans bill to the goverment its topping 12k at moment.

Originally Posted by wfnuk

What exactly is that gibberish supposed to mean? To confirm, yes, it is hard to believe that you are in full time education...!

If this is the way that basic education is progressing then all I can say is God help us in the future!

[NineToTheSky]

Originally Posted by strider

When you have representatives of the company ending statements with "Now who's for tennis?" what do you expect?

They clear don't take anything seriously and as a result F2S cannot be taken seriously. It's unfortunate that those representing F2S on this site act, at times, as if they are twelve years old and still at school, rather than acting in a professional and courteous manner.

Unfortunately, I don't see the problem here. It's grammatically correct, and I certainly feel that injecting a bit of levity in to these forums (fora?) can't be bad thing.

And wfnuk, I too couldn't believe that minority report (hah!)

On a side note, when posts get humourous, they seem to get moved in to the Chit Chat forum, which I feel is a shame (partly because I wasn't aware that there are any other forums, and I suspect no-one reads them). I understand why, but just a little lightness makes everyone's day a little bit better.

[strider]

Originally Posted by NineToTheSky

Unfortunately, I don't see the problem here. It's grammatically correct, and I certainly feel that injecting a bit of levity in to these forums (fora?) can't be bad thing.

Some people may view this forum as a social club - but I suspect for the majority it is where they expect to air grievances, and get answers and solutions. When the people representing F2S act with an inappropriate lack of seriousness then i don't think that's a 'good thing'.

Perhaps if F2S were more forthcoming and their representatives acted in a more business-like manner, rather than clowning about - then everyone would actually understand exactly what changes are/have been made.

Also - that statement didn't just appear in the forum. Everyone receiving the newsletter also received a copy of the post - and will no doubt have absolutely no idea what he's on about.

[tarren]

Originally Posted by pauln1961

This may help..

Its or It's?


Its is the possessive pronoun; it modifies a noun.

It's is a contraction of it is or <B>it has.

</B>Incorrect: The mother cat carried it's kitten in it's mouth.
(Possessive pronoun, no apostrophe)
Correct: The mother cat carried its kitten in its mouth.
Correct: I think it's going to rain today.
(Contraction of it is)
Correct: It's been a very long time.
(Contraction of it has) Made me think there....

...Paul, would "the mothers' kitten be correct"?

[NineToTheSky]

Originally Posted by tarren

...Paul, would "the mothers' kitten be correct"?

Sorry to jump in here, but no. Mothers' means more than one mother, which is biologically impossible

[Toby]

Originally Posted by hullydude

I don't think it paints a very good picture if the F2S website, the 'front door' to the world is full of basic English grammar errors!

For example http://www.freedom2surf.net/adsl/homeuser.php states:


The Freedom2phone VoIP Service
Internet Telephony at it's best.

I mean... doesn't anyone older than 19, (i.e. who doesn't write in txtspk), check the site before it's published to the world?

I'm sure it doesn't bother a lot of the younger generation, because, let's face it, we're dumbing down all the time so who cares, right?

However, it would cause me to consider whether or not to spend my money with them. If they can't even write basic English, how the heck are they going to manage the network?

huLLy

Get a life you old misery and i`m in my sixties

[NineToTheSky]

Originally Posted by Toby

Get a life you old misery and i`m in my sixties

Who are you calling an old misery? I'll let you know, I'm the most miserable here. Credit where credit's due. (And I'm nearly in my sixties).

[Xenith]

Now I understand That explains why I only got a B at GCSE English and not an A

Although I think some people have got the two different attitudes of how we type messed up, I know I nearly did reading through this. Some are saying, who cares we type it, we aren't going to check every single little thing we type, however true, that is on the forums. Hullydude is referring to a professional website dealing with many thousands of customers therefore being grammatically correct is probably a vital. At the same time, how many people notice this? I for one would be one that glance straight past it, which again, confirms Hullydude's general point

Simple things like this I suppose are the things that can make the difference, one thing im definately going to have to look out for if I ever hit off in website design

[gomez]

Originally Posted by NineToTheSky

Sorry to jump in here, but no. Mothers' means more than one mother, which is biologically impossible

Not in this day and age were it is possible to implant the nucleus from the egg of one female into the egg of another female then have that implnated in a third female who gives birth and the kitten is then raised by a fourth female.

[Xenith]

Gomez, the point still stands, it is still biologically impossible to have more than one mother.

You may have adoptive mother(s) or a surrogate mother. But you can only have one Biological mother.

[hullydude]

Originally Posted by Toby

Get a life you old misery and i`m in my sixties

The other posters have validated what I've said. My opinion is, if you think that what I am saying is marginal, then you are guilty of the dumbing down brigade that is rotting UK from the inside out!

Rant over.

[phillcahill]

Originally Posted by Xenith

Gomez, the point still stands, it is still biologically impossible to have more than one mother.

You may have adoptive mother(s) or a surrogate mother. But you can only have one Biological mother.

haha Have i come to the wrong forum As for a poor grasp of english grammer, sorry thats me ha. As for if its biologically possible to have more than one mother hey, in cyber space anything is possible LOL

[Aydon]

Originally Posted by NineToTheSky

Sorry to jump in here, but no. Mothers' means more than one mother, which is biologically impossible

Mothers-ln-law

Frank Zappa and the Mothers of Invention.

If you used the band's shortened name (The Mothers) you could say "I saw the Mothers' guitars over there by the wall".

And yes - that is VERY contrived

[gomez]

Originally Posted by Xenith

You may have adoptive mother(s) or a surrogate mother. But you can only have one Biological mother.

Now you are adding qualifications. In the scenario I gave which one was the biological mother then? And I have not even bothered to complicate things by having sections of DNA spliced into the nucleus from other contributers.

[The Villan]

I am sixty - her is my message LOL :-)

fi yuo cna raed tihs, yuo hvae a sgtrane mnid too. Cna yuo raed tihs?
Olny 55 plepoe can.
i cdnuolt blveiee taht I cluod aulaclty uesdnatnrd waht I was rdanieg.
The phaonmneal pweor of the hmuan mnid, aoccdrnig to a rscheearch at
Cmabrigde
Uinervtisy, it dseno't mtaetr in waht oerdr the ltteres in a wrod are, the
olny iproamtnt tihng is taht the frsit and lsat ltteer be in the rghit
pclae.
The rset can be a taotl mses and you can sitll raed it whotuit a
pboerlm.
Tihs is bcuseae the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by istlef, but
the wrod as a wlohe. Azanmig huh? yaeh and I awlyas tghuhot slpeling was
ipmorantt!

[akita_inu]

Originally Posted by The Villan

I am sixty - her is my message LOL :-)

fi yuo cna raed tihs, yuo hvae a sgtrane mnid too. Cna yuo raed tihs?
Olny 55 plepoe can.
i cdnuolt blveiee taht I cluod aulaclty uesdnatnrd waht I was rdanieg.
The phaonmneal pweor of the hmuan mnid, aoccdrnig to a rscheearch at
Cmabrigde
Uinervtisy, it dseno't mtaetr in waht oerdr the ltteres in a wrod are, the
olny iproamtnt tihng is taht the frsit and lsat ltteer be in the rghit
pclae.
The rset can be a taotl mses and you can sitll raed it whotuit a
pboerlm.
Tihs is bcuseae the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by istlef, but
the wrod as a wlohe. Azanmig huh? yaeh and I awlyas tghuhot slpeling was
ipmorantt!

Fantastic .... and I understood every word !!

[Xenith]

Originally Posted by gomez

Now you are adding qualifications. In the scenario I gave which one was the biological mother then? And I have not even bothered to complicate things by having sections of DNA spliced into the nucleus from other contributers.

In that case, you cannot have another biological mother without human intervention! Therefore I retract surrogate mothers from my previous post

[stephenc]

Originally Posted by The Villan

I am sixty - her is my message LOL :-)

fi yuo cna raed tihs, yuo hvae a sgtrane mnid too. Cna yuo raed tihs?
Olny 55 plepoe can.
i cdnuolt blveiee taht I cluod aulaclty uesdnatnrd waht I was rdanieg.
The phaonmneal pweor of the hmuan mnid, aoccdrnig to a rscheearch at
Cmabrigde
Uinervtisy, it dseno't mtaetr in waht oerdr the ltteres in a wrod are, the
olny iproamtnt tihng is taht the frsit and lsat ltteer be in the rghit
pclae.
The rset can be a taotl mses and you can sitll raed it whotuit a
pboerlm.
Tihs is bcuseae the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by istlef, but
the wrod as a wlohe. Azanmig huh? yaeh and I awlyas tghuhot slpeling was
ipmorantt!

That is amazing....I read it wihtuot sikpipng a baet